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« on: May 27, 2009, 18:13:17 pm » |
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Right, people who are better at geometry, this is a draft-thing of a room with a sloping skylight and a pipe running across the ceiling. It looks off, but I need to know why before I start trying to fix things. Any tips, overdrawing etc very much appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2009, 18:46:37 pm » |
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The problem is vanishing points. And the fact that perspective lines tend to create artificial constraints, but that's by the by...
The rule is: all your lines go to two points on the horizon. You've got your bottom lines going to two points, but the lines above the horizon are going somewhere else entirely. I've marked the tops of the walls in red to illustrate the pint. The blue line at the bottom is taking one of the wall lines out to the more distant vanishing point to see how it would look.
More natural perspective requires vanishing points that are quite a long distance apart.
Or you could just eyeball the whole thing, which tends to look more natural.
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2009, 19:18:47 pm » |
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Thanks for the help! What I've done next is use a wider horizon line as you suggest, and altered the floor angle rather than the ceiling (haven't drawn over everything in the ceiling, but hopefully it should be easier in a while). Do the orange lines here look any better?
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the buildingDear Helen, No. I have a goldfish but due to the air conditioner in my apartment being stuck on a constant two degrees celsius, the water in its bowl is iced over and he has not moved for a while so I do not think he is capable of disturbing the neighbours. The ducks in the bathroom are not mine. -- from emailsfromcrazypeople.comAh, dA. Proof that the hedgehog can, in fact, be buggered. -- Terry
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2009, 19:21:18 pm » |
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Yep!
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2009, 20:10:59 pm » |
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Splendid.  One more question: I'm not sure about redoing the perspective on that slanting skylight thing. Because the glass bit is at an angle to the rest of the room, should it have its own vanishing points? |
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the buildingDavid, I am unsure what to make of your email. Do you have pets in the apartment or not? Helen To: Helen Bailey
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the buildingDear Helen, No. I have a goldfish but due to the air conditioner in my apartment being stuck on a constant two degrees celsius, the water in its bowl is iced over and he has not moved for a while so I do not think he is capable of disturbing the neighbours. The ducks in the bathroom are not mine. -- from emailsfromcrazypeople.comAh, dA. Proof that the hedgehog can, in fact, be buggered. -- Terry
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2009, 22:12:57 pm » |
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For a sloped roof, ignore the actual slope for a second and think of it as a box, with the slope forming the angle between the top left and bottom right of one side here. Split the box into pieces, then draw the lines of the skylight where those smaller boxes intersect the sloped roof.
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Dorothy L Sayers
once upon a midnight dreary, while i pron surfed, weak and weary, over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore'. While i clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour, " 'Tis not possible!", i muttered, " give me back my free hardcore!"..... quoth the server, 404.
The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see.
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2009, 23:49:19 pm » |
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Several hours later, it gets far enough past my skull to make sense. Thanks to Graham for considerable sketching time and not injuring me.
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the buildingDavid, I am unsure what to make of your email. Do you have pets in the apartment or not? Helen To: Helen Bailey
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pets in the buildingDear Helen, No. I have a goldfish but due to the air conditioner in my apartment being stuck on a constant two degrees celsius, the water in its bowl is iced over and he has not moved for a while so I do not think he is capable of disturbing the neighbours. The ducks in the bathroom are not mine. -- from emailsfromcrazypeople.comAh, dA. Proof that the hedgehog can, in fact, be buggered. -- Terry
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